Post by booktrader » Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:39 am

Hello,
I have an active online book store and I am planning to move my site to opencart.
I m a web developer but new on opencart, and now testing my site on local host with opencart 3.0.2.0 with smart book theme
https://themeforest.net/item/smartbook- ... s/23201048

I need "Publishers" and also "Authors", i changed Manufacturers to Publishers and this is a good solution i think.
But the problem is "Authors", what is the best way to do this? If someone can tell me the way best way, i can i think.

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Post by thekrotek » Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:36 pm

You can try to use attributes for authors.

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Post by letxobnav » Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:09 pm

I use filters.

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Post by uksitebuilder » Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:11 pm

Personally I would have used Attributes or Tags for Publishers (not many folks search by publisher). Then probably use Manufacturers for Authors and Categories for Genres. Would need to modify the search functionality to search in manufacturers so Authors could be searched, or also add authors as Tags.

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Post by by mona » Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:28 pm

A smart book theme that doesn’t do this for you? go figure …

I would suggest (as above)
genre is category
author is manufacturer
ISPN is there for you
publisher I would put as tag (if required) or add it after author in the product page

and I actually think you can ask the theme developer to do this for you, as it is supposed to be a theme for a bookshop.

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Post by booktrader » Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:13 pm

Thanks for all answers.

I planned to use genres as categories.

Looks like a good solution is using manufacturers as authors.
So i can use tags for authors.

In this case, i have to list books by publishers and also i have to list books by authors, is it possible?
And also i am making discounts by publishers, for examples publisher A's books are 30% discounted and myabe publisher B's books are %20 is it possible too?

Do i ve to modify sql tables for this modifications?

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Post by by mona » Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:25 pm

no you would be better to use a category for publishers as well and add the book into both
you can choose whether to have this in the top menu bar or not
purchase something like this (not tested just searched marketplace)
https://www.opencart.com/index.php?rout ... n_id=32510
or write it yourself

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Post by thekrotek » Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:33 pm

booktrader wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:13 pm
In this case, i have to list books by publishers and also i have to list books by authors, is it possible?
Actually, I would create a new dependency similar to manufactures and called it Authors. And similar to manufacturers you would be able to assign author to every product without using attributes and filters. Seems better way to me in terms of indexing, listing and searching.
booktrader wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:13 pm
And also i am making discounts by publishers, for examples publisher A's books are 30% discounted and myabe publisher B's books are %20 is it possible too?
Yes, I have an extension exactly for this: Manufacturer Fee or Discount.

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Post by by mona » Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:43 pm

as for the search
this will do everything and the support is amazing

https://www.opencart.com/index.php?rout ... on_id=2558
https://www.opencartx.com/smart-search

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Post by agatha65 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:27 am

Recently I made a site for a publishing house. In my case there are no publishers. Categories for genre, manufacturers for authors, a good live search(comes with the theme in my case). A lot of attributes(cover, year,pages....). Additional filter on category page.
The main problem to solve was that every book has paperback, hardcover and sometimes ebook and they are completly different products(ISBN, attributes, specials, ebooks don't require shipping).
I wsed this extension to make it work.
https://www.opencart.com/index.php?rout ... n_id=37579
With this extension every book variant is a different product in admin with all product data, but in the site front they are combined and shown as one product.

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Post by booktrader » Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:38 pm

agatha65 wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:27 am
Recently I made a site for a publishing house. In my case there are no publishers. Categories for genre, manufacturers for authors, a good live search(comes with the theme in my case). A lot of attributes(cover, year,pages....). Additional filter on category page.
The main problem to solve was that every book has paperback, hardcover and sometimes ebook and they are completly different products(ISBN, attributes, specials, ebooks don't require shipping).
I wsed this extension to make it work.
https://www.opencart.com/index.php?rout ... n_id=37579
With this extension every book variant is a different product in admin with all product data, but in the site front they are combined and shown as one product.
I need publishers, because i have different discount rates for different publishers. I will check extension.

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thekrotek wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:33 pm
booktrader wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:13 pm
In this case, i have to list books by publishers and also i have to list books by authors, is it possible?
Actually, I would create a new dependency similar to manufactures and called it Authors. And similar to manufacturers you would be able to assign author to every product without using attributes and filters. Seems better way to me in terms of indexing, listing and searching.
booktrader wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:13 pm
And also i am making discounts by publishers, for examples publisher A's books are 30% discounted and myabe publisher B's books are %20 is it possible too?
Yes, I have an extension exactly for this: Manufacturer Fee or Discount.
Your extension looks like what i need, i will check it, thanks!
"I would create a new dependency similar to manufactures and called it Authors" can you show me a tutorial, or tell me a way to do this, i want to try it.


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no you would be better to use a category for publishers as well and add the book into both
you can choose whether to have this in the top menu bar or not
purchase something like this (not tested just searched marketplace)
https://www.opencart.com/index.php?rout ... n_id=32510
or write it yourself
In this method, i have to discount for categories? What about authors and publishers?
Search is in the second plan now.

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Post by by mona » Sun Dec 01, 2019 7:52 pm

You can add products into as many categories as you like
so there is no reason not to have genres listed in each category in the top level menu with publishers and authors as categories in their own right (either displayed in top menu or not as you wish - maybe in a different colour) and then you can discount just the category of publisher x or author y as well as genre a.

the module (the developer really) I suggested is flexible so it will do the above just using category discount.
Volume/Tier
Loyalty
Category Discount
Customer Group Discount
Manufacturer Discount
Order total Discount

You could also keep author as manufacturer
and duplicate manufacturer to create publisher and duplicate manufacturer discount as publisher discount and keep them all separate. I have used the developer modules before - he will help you if you can not do it yourself, or ask a different developer.

Then you are using category discount and manufacturer discount (author) and a new duplicated manufacturer discount (publisher).

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