Post by mikeinterserv » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:12 am

sw!tch wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:09 am
Right, but from what I understand is the logic was originally implemented into opencart to keep track of PayPal orders. viewtopic.php?f=121&t=9192#p61760
There will be good reason as to why it is like it is.
Whether someone likes that or not is another thing :-)

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Post by hyeclass » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:17 am

mikeinterserv wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:11 am
hyeclass wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:47 am
i am tailing the sql and it shows once i am in

New Customer
Checkout:

Create Account
Guest Checkout
for example i am guess

once i put my info next page i am getting a order_id sql shows i haven't reach to final confirmation page.
What makes you think that people are going to go as far as entering their information for checkout and THEN NOT checking out.
I know there could be the RARE reason but not many will do that in reality.
I understand what you want and the topic link by switch has many answers take a deeper look.
I think you may find you are worrying about something unnecessarily.
if it was unnecessarily, i see so many people talking about this topic, as what comes to people going that far, people want a see how much it will be with tax and everything, which will display at the end of the page. yes i can make it shows the tax and everything in a shopping cart, not that point...
has anyone created a addon for this issue? would you happen to know?

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Post by mikeinterserv » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:28 am

hyeclass wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:47 am
if it was unnecessarily, i see so many people talking about this topic,
Because people get their knickers in a twist easily :-)

Did you find an answer in the topic posted by SWITCH
Yes I am sure there is an extension to help you with this.

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Post by hyeclass » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:54 am

mikeinterserv wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:28 am
hyeclass wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:47 am
if it was unnecessarily, i see so many people talking about this topic,
Because people get their knickers in a twist easily :-)

Did you find an answer in the topic posted by SWITCH
Yes I am sure there is an extension to help you with this.

I didn't see any extension regarding this issue of main, would you happen to know?

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Post by sw!tch » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:58 am

Search the marketplace for something. To do this requires core edits if nothing can be found and if you are not a developer consider posting a commercial request.

The post is a reference to the basic logic, you are still expected to have some basic PHP knowledge before taking on a task.

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Post by hyeclass » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:17 am

sw!tch wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:58 am
Search the marketplace for something. To do this requires core edits if nothing can be found and if you are not a developer consider posting a commercial request.

The post is a reference to the basic logic, you are still expected to have some basic PHP knowledge before taking on a task.
nothing is available, thx for the help

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Post by mikeinterserv » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:25 am

Everyone appreciates your frustration when things are not exactly as you would like, happens to all of us at some time :-)
I would put money that you wouldn't find this much of a problem in comparison to the benefits of opencart, nothing is perfect.
Also
Capturing that data - the missed orders can give you valuable insight to issues that might be occurring on your site etc.
That data can be useful to you.

If you REALLY need that function, there a many opencart developer who can help you commercially, I don't think it will cost you much with a competent developer.

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Post by mikeinterserv » Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:13 am

Here's one from experience if it might help

We had customers with vouchers and codes etc. In OC you cannot enter these at checkout they HAVE to be entered in the shopping cart.
The shop owner was getting LOADS of missed orders because the customers had no way to know and were expecting to find they could enter them at PAYMENT or sometime there. They ONLY discovered they could NOT use the voucher or code and cancelled. creating the MISSED ORDERS. This is because it is TOO EASY to go to checkout WITHOUT VIEWING the shopping cart.

All I did was put a clear message on the checkout that vouchers and code have to be redeemed HERE with a click here link.
We NEVER got even 1 more missing order now because of that simple line of text.

So the simplist thing for you maybe, AND you even mentioned it yourself, that you guide them to the SHOPPING BASKET to get the postage quotes, codes and vouchers OR anything else in your purchase flow out of the way. This just MAY be enough to solve your problem without technical assistance.

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Post by by mona » Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:30 am

The Krotec has something that cleans it up
https://www.opencart.com/index.php?rout ... n_id=12064

You can find his email and support on that page.

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Post by mikeinterserv » Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:33 am

Whilst that's nice for what its for, it won't fix the problem the OP seems to have

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Post by by mona » Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:39 am

by mona wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:30 am
You can find his email and support on that page.
So he can ask
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Post by hyeclass » Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:39 am

mikeinterserv wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:25 am
Everyone appreciates your frustration when things are not exactly as you would like, happens to all of us at some time :-)
I would put money that you wouldn't find this much of a problem in comparison to the benefits of opencart, nothing is perfect.
Also
Capturing that data - the missed orders can give you valuable insight to issues that might be occurring on your site etc.
That data can be useful to you.

If you REALLY need that function, there a many opencart developer who can help you commercially, I don't think it will cost you much with a competent developer.
i don't trust anyone, i am sure i can recode it, it will take time.

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Post by mikeinterserv » Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:43 am

hyeclass wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:39 am
i don't trust anyone
You should have let us know first we wouldn't have wasted our time :crazy:

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Post by hyeclass » Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:12 am

mikeinterserv wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:43 am
hyeclass wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:39 am
i don't trust anyone
You should have let us know first we wouldn't have wasted our time :crazy:
you feel like you wasted your time, you HELPED me to achieve my goal,

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Post by mikeinterserv » Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:15 am

hyeclass wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:12 am
mikeinterserv wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:43 am
hyeclass wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:39 am
i don't trust anyone
You should have let us know first we wouldn't have wasted our time :crazy:
you feel like you wasted your time, you HELPED me to achieve my goal,
Seriously maybe I missed something in translation, Everyone was genuinely trying to help.
but saying - I don't trust anyone comes accross, as we didn't help, so I am confused.
If we did help then good that's the intention, if not no worries :-)

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